BRIG New Stock Server discussion and issues

Commanding Officer

During the rebuild of our servers, we are bound to encounter some issues, here is a place to list these issues for resolution. Wrath does not know what to fix if we don not tell him, I will be gone a few days but expect you guys to at least post a daily insert that the server ran well. Last night the only error I encountered was when I tried to manually rotate the maps from within the game, it kicked me to my own little empty server. Rcon and autocycle worked flawlessly while I was in there. More guys played throughout the night, any issues for any of you guys?

Sage-BRIG- THE WAR GOD

Worked fine until we got

Worked fine until we got tired of 2v1, then we went looking elsewhere.  The only complaint we had was the spawn locations, they suck when you have the enemy spawn behind you or next to you.  Also, is there a reason that the pings are high on it?  I'm used to 110-130 range, but heard about it when others got up there, I kinda liked it as we all were about the same, but like I said, I'm used to it, thats my life, others can't play at that level and we hear about it.


TxSniper-BRIG-'s picture

I want to mirror Napalm's

I want to mirror Napalm's post by saying that the pings were noticeably high, but we kicked your butt just fine with it.... hahahahaha.  I know we all voted in the past about spawning on the other side of the map, but I've heard everyone complain about it since then, me included.  So, I don't think the squad likes that part of the server anymore... we might want to bring it to a poll/vote.  I personally would like to see the Ranked server to rotate with every map to a different game style (TDM, HQ, etc.)

TxSniper


TxSniper Texas - where everything's bigger!!!

JJ-BRIG-'s picture

I have to agree with Napalm

I have to agree with Napalm on saying the spawn was extremely close to eneimies. Is there any chance of us designing our own maps? And if So, Then perhaps We should?  I Probably need to post this else where, though I believe Sage Did a Great job on getting the server up and running! Thanks again to Tx. for the contribution~!


IF they aren't found on the end of Sage's blade, They are going to wish they were~!

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I'm not sure what's causing

I'm not sure what's causing the higher ping-times, that's likely due to a condition of the connecting networks and not the server itself.  There maybe a issue with either the network in Sage's house, or with a Cox link before it's handed off to the major carriers.

 The spawn points...  There's not much we can do with the stock maps and stock game except change the gametypes.  That's always been the problem with all the CoD stuff.  Mods like ACE,eXtreme, etc help as do custom maps.  I'll be bringing those online as soon as we think we have the bugs worked out of the base install.  The last thing we want to do is duplicate corrupt or otherwise faulty files across all five servers.

 As far as gametpe goes.  We can make it whatever.  Voting is enabled so we can change it some on the fly.

-=w=- 


As for the pings, if they

As for the pings, if they are higher than they were on our "other" servers it would definately need to be addressed, that being said Cox did have line techs out in my area from I hear so that may have been the issue. If it is regular over a span of datys make sure to repost it with maybe some SS, and I will see what I can reroute to fix the issue as we havent had these issues in the past so we should have even less on this new server.


Sage-BRIG- THE WAR GOD

The only other item i

The only other item i noticed on the server was the kill cam, it needs to be disabled because it gives away your position to the enemy. Other then that, good job!

Okay, I'm not going to get

Okay, I'm not going to get into the debate over noob tubes and whether they have a tactical use, I agree they do, but in the server they are being used, abused, and it's annoying to use tactics to move into an objective and have a guy re-spawn across the map and lob nades across it to kill you.  I still think they should be banned and make people work together, instead of multiple nading machines, then we won't hear don't make me take out the tube, or he has one or they have more than one, so I'm using it too - sounds like we are in the freaking 3rd grade, johnny has a green pencil, I need one too - sound familiar - listen to the vent chatter.

We need to revisit it, look at our past discussions on it, are we a rng or tactical squad, then get the damn server to reflect our mission.  I understand it's in testing right now, but we haven't changed a thing on it since it came up, we need kill cam off permantly, longer spawn times so you can't kill someone with skill and have them spawn 5 seconds later and noob you from across the map, it was headquarters, I don't remember what the length of spawn times were after our last debates, but they need to be moved up.  I won't touch them as I don't want to listen to the whining and complaining that they can't spawn for 20 seconds or so - it's over - well then use skill and sneak in, instead of noobing and giving yourself away.

I would like to see a tactical realism server up asap, it's no secret that is the style I like, stealth and using tactics and skill to achieve an objective.  Even the 1st.db server hasn't been as good since they did away with the standard one, it's way too much running and gunning lately, not as much skill and tactics.

So, for our server, spawn times, game type, and kill cam are the things that need immediate attention, I  disabled kill cam tonight and didn't have a complaint, I did it with rcon - but i'm sure it will revert back to the stock settings and I don't mess with them.

I know not everyone agrees with my point of view, but i'm getting sick of playing with the noob tubes night after night after night and hearing about it over and over.  The only choice is to drop out of the game and not play, which sucks, or violate regs and find a suitable server and play alone in it.


LadyKiller's picture

i hate it to

ok noob tubes do have to go it does suck when u are trying to do what u can in the game with a team member and all u get is that it does piss u off i did last night with some of the non clan members last man standing gets me all the time but it is what they put on their perks.the spawn time in a hq server is 10 seconds the kill cam does suck to i hate it that is why i press f when i die so i dont see where the other guy is


Kill cams will be addressed

Kill cams will be addressed as soon as Wrath has the time, we all know he is in a bad place right now and I am sure the game is still stressing in the back of his mind as well. We are working on getting the other servers up despite your thoughts that we are not, there is a unknown issue with the mods, we have not found and eliminated the corruption, if we put them up corrupted it will take the entire system out like it did my other one and I know nobody wants to fork over another grand to get a new new server running, Tx already foot that bill once and so did I once, not worth it to get these up faster and corrupt the new one same as the old  one. As for nube tubes, this is stock, meaning no alterations, when we get some other servers running again we can limit or reduce the nade launchers. I will say it again though I dont see why I have too. I started this squad over six years ago and I have never ever said we do not use nade guns, it is, and will always be one of my fav weapons. Of course it is not a tactical weapon and I also love cqb style fighting and once our tactical server is running that will be addressed. Of course a nade gun in the right hands is tactical and if you want proof I will be more than happy to start a competition and show you I use skill with my launcher, not just lob in egneral directions, the problem is when the entire team gets one, its nothing but nades and that gets annoying even to me. However there were so many nades last night even the naders stopped using them becuase they realized it was out of control, thats a good thing now they realize there is such thing as to much. This arguement is getting old and from this point on there is to be no bitching in vent about it as it is cealrly getting to other members to listen to it and I will be honest, Napalm isnt the only one getting annoyed with the childish arguement in vent. Myself included we all need to read the regs again becuase it forbids this in vent, I and the leaders will begin enforcing this rule again to alleviate undue stress in vent, if someone bitches, warn them, if they continue move them to another channel until they regain thier composure.

 

Keep in mind I hate snipers more than you guys hate naders, but they are part of the game and the fact that I hate it does not stop you guys from picking up your rifles and shooting me and laughing about it right? Others hate knifers, but I love to knife. Still others hate gunners becuase they can just spray and pray, there is something to hate about most weapons and that is why they were created. War is war, snipers, naders, cqb and riflement were created to counter and take out as many enemy as possible. We do not promote as a tactical squad, we are tactical, but we are also gamers, we play multiple styles and we hate multpile styles but they are there for a reason. In real war you think if my squad is moving through a town we wont have a nade launcher on hand? You bet we will, the tactical 5 man teams always have one, the thing is they only have one, but they friggen use it. Just as overwatch has a rifle and smokes any he can before the squad gets there, just as the cqb's clear the rooms with flash bangs and small arms and claymores. Matter of fact everyone hates my clays too, but its war, war is not fair or we would have all our soldiers home right now.

 

As I said before once we get this stuff going on, we will get the other servers up including the ones everyone is missing and the tactical ones as well as all other mods, I personally want the mod where you start with a pistol--that was pretty fun. Once we do this there will be a server to accomodate any type of gameplay. This one is stock, we are trying not to make any changes until we are sure its running perfect, last night went well, the only issue we have seen is the pings, so before all else, how were pings last night? Were they good or did they peak like the other night? Once we have that solved we can move to the next step, for now keep turning off the spawn cam as everyone agrees its cheap andf we never used it before.  As always you can cal me if needed, I will be gone tonight as I have late night MRI's to have done on my brain again with a new neurologist so I leave about 8:00 cst, I will be on before that. Keep your fingers crossed for me.


Sage-BRIG- THE WAR GOD

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Just to reiterate a post

Just to reiterate a post from before.  My wife an I have just separated.  I've camped out in a spare bedroom at my mother's.  My only source of transportation only runs about two-thirds of the time.  And work is requiring overtime. Yes,  I can handle this shit.  But it couldn't have come at a worse time for our servers.

I'm not sure why the kill cam is still on.  I've set it in the config file first as "0" which I thought would logically mean "off".  I read some instructions that said the line means "Disable the Kill cam?.  The answer to that would of course be "1"  Yes.  So I changed it to that.   Well It seemed to be off the night I made it was off...  And it was finally also in Hardcore mode.

Why is it reverting?  I don't know? RCON does have the ability to overwrite the config file.  Maybe it's messing with it.  I'll see what I can find and post it.

Sorry this has been such a a bad experience fo all concerned.  I'll try to fix what I can as soon as I can.

-=w=- 

 


TxSniper-BRIG-'s picture

In my opinion it isn't that

In my opinion it isn't that big of an issue for you to sweat over.  Get to it when you want.  Take care of yourself first.

TxSniper


TxSniper Texas - where everything's bigger!!!

LadyKiller's picture

tx is right

u need to take care of yourself and get your self together right now.we are doing ok with all we have right now and i can tell u that i love it and i do know where you coming from cause i am in the same way u are with everything going on it is like u dont have time for yourself that is me we are just human we can be perfect do dont sweat it and worry about getting u bad together before anything


JJ-BRIG-'s picture

In aspect of what Commander

In aspect of what Commander Sage said earlier, I agree that nade guns are an issue weaponary, some soilders really like to use them. It is not hacking so perhaps the thought of revoking them is uncalled for. I love to snipe and Sage hates snipers, so yea deal with it.<--- Not trying to be offensive. My idea of the situation is that such awhile back I hated knifing so badly, Sage spent some time with me and showed me skill which now Knifing isn't so bad. If your skill needs to be addressed then I advise you work on it. Frusteration comes on many levels--- I get so frusterated when shooting someone and they don't go down. I know I shot them first, I know in real life there head would be splattered and there is no such thing as lag. This is a game and those things do occur. Its like placing a limit on how many people Sage can kill, or home many people Cowboy kills in a row, we just can't do that... Getting rid of the killcam is not a bad idea, it wastes my time to get back into the game.

 

Can we change respawn times? It's taking a little bit longer than what is in normal mode. My patience are definatly tested.

I have to address one more thing: If we call out a specific weaponary to be used during a game(only new comers into the game should be allowed a = opps, i didn't know) after that, if the player is being  consistant on destroying a knife, pistol, shotgun session. Then I believe they should be kicked from that particular game.NO EXCUSES!

There's no need to piss each other off over this, there are many servers out there and if they want to go shoot or whatever, they can. We should make an understanding on specific gameplay. Shotguns means shotguns--- not pistols, ect. 

I checked into the map tool, though i kept getting this error ms32.dll 

I read the forum posts from where I recieved the tool and followed all requirements for the given fix and still no success. Hopefully I will resolve this issue and be able to spend some time creating some unique maps for us.

School will start back up soon for me, which means I will be back into studies, though at least one hour a day won't hurt me to play. Though when I finally find the time, I believe having maps nobody is used to really makes us use skill, not just find my special spot on the map and kill as many as I can...lol

My Final statement : We are a family of BRIG. Whatever problem there is we will overcome it no matter whatever doubt you may have. Personally I have seen some really dark days that I thought survival was not even a possibility. I am still here and have overcome many obstacles.  Think of whatever problem you may incounter as a TEST and not a problem. THIS IS A TEST, ONLY A TEST. We may fail with our initial solution,though that doesn't exactly mean we failed. 

 

 


IF they aren't found on the end of Sage's blade, They are going to wish they were~!